ext_174319 ([identity profile] greerwatson.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] greerwatson 2012-08-19 11:28 pm (UTC)

I've just updated the Fanlore article (http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Blue_Plate_Diner) with the new URL.

I get that you feel sensitive about other people's fanfic, the more so since AO3 was only going to preserve stories, not the website as a whole. (At least that's my understanding of the way their Open Doors project works.) To shift the entire website to a different server is one thing: from the perspective of the stories—in so far as the notion of stories having a POV isn't twee beyond belief—they haven't moved at all relative to the website, since they're still accessed off the same index page. They're still in situ. Taking them "out of situ" is another matter.

We came up against this ethical problem when we did our own small-scale GeoCities rescue for Forever Knight websites; and our solution was to shift the whole site: every page, every graphic, every story (and that includes things that didn't have any connection with Forever Knight itself). If you are curious, the Forever Knight Website Archive is here (http://www.foreverknight.org/archive.html). To ensure that people were in line with what we were doing, we reported everything to the FORKNI-L list. Also, we tried to e-mail all the people whose websites had been on GeoCities. Everyone we were able to get in touch with was happy with our saving their site.

We did try to contact you, too, since you had a crossover story. Um. Your e-mail address on the site didn't work. We saved the art anyway. It's here (http://www.foreverknight.org/FictionAndFilk/BluePlateDiner/strkni.html). (For the story, we put in a link to Mel's site.) I hope you don't mind. We thought the art was just too pretty to see go into oblivion. Of course, we didn't know you'd moved the site.

As for Reocities, GeoCities.ws, and Oocities (and any others), these were all last-ditch attempts by various civic-minded computer types to rescue as much of GeoCities as they could possibly manage. They literally dragged out all the data they could locate, with no assistance whatsoever from Yahoo! Basically, these people just couldn't bear to see it all be destroyed on a whim. Some of the material they saved has since been put back up on the web. Unlike AO3, they saved whole websites. The Reocities copy is here: http://www.reocities.com/blueplatediner/ I don't know how much they saved. (It's possible that one of the others also saved the site; but, if so, it's not among the sites they restored to the web.)

I see you've put new art on the site. I must say, when I saved it myself (though not to upload, since it's not a Forever Knight site), I particularly liked the inside/outside views of the diner menu. I was especially taken with the HTML for the inside view. That the graphic for the outside of the menu lay at the bottom of all the other things, out of site (exactly as, in real life, the outside of the menu would be out of site behind what you were reading), was just cute beyond words.

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